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Some times 10 or 15 TSA screeners at the same time. Considering 90% of guns are not even found when the TSA is tested by other government agencies, I'm curious how they even manage to find guns or drugs on crewmembers. I'll bet you're very good at stacking pillows and blankets around something you'll never find. What? Your flight will be delayed while we get screened. A:Airlines for America (A4A) has received some reports of crewmembers experiencing technical difficulties while trying to activate a KCM account or register a KCM barcode card on themykcmsupport.comwebsite.. Crewmembers that experience technical difficulties while either activating an account or registering a KCM barcode card should contact the KCM service provider directly atkcmsupport@arinc.com. Cry for us. 0000003664 00000 n Flight attendants (mostly female) live out of their suitcases for several days at a time and wouldn't be feasible to check their bags just for health and beauty products (make-up, shampoo, etc), not counting the amount of food that FA's are allowed to pack in their travel cooler (again, several days of food are packed in those coolers) FA's are background checked and it's an honor system just like Global Entry and Pre-Check, you're screened as to if you can be a "trusted traveler". TSAL may provide the same; subject to advance arrangement made known at least 48 hours before departure. Once registered, you may begin using the barcode card at any active KCM access point. Flight attendants do not have as much to loose as a pilot. Are you EOD now? Drugs and Medicine prohibited by the FDA; Distilled spirit absinthe (except certain diluted brands) Merchandise from embargoed countries; Items made with Dog and . All air carrier employees are subject to TSA screening practices conducted within sterile areas, which include roving screening teams and/or random gate screening. Since they have random and say catch someone doing something illegal make that individual go through the whole security process instead of punishing all of us? It gets Americans used to standing in line while goons grope you - welcome to our increasing police state. We KCM should be 100% allowed for pilots there is a MASSIVE difference in career terms and pay between pilots and FAs. The current iteration of the KCM program has been around since 2011. %%EOF The Airlines and the TSA needs to punish the people that commit the crimes, and not just put out a blanket change that punishes the 99.9% of the pilots and flight attendants that follow the rules. Good one. Carriage of another individuals property through the KCM portal to circumvent screening is prohibited. But of course, they would have to pay them more. - you would really have more "professionals" and those are less likely to abuse the system. AFA International | The first step should be eliminating flight attendants from any expedited screening program. board the aircraft. If the crewmember iswearinga uniform, the crewmember must present a KCM barcode card and a non-expired: Aircraft operator-issued crewmember photo ID or National Air Transport Association ID. They aren't looking for drugs but if they find you strapped up with bricks of coke and fentanyl they have to get police involved, you absolute morons. NOTE: If the selected crewmember exits the sterile area and attempts to reenter through a KCM access point during this time period, they will continue to be identified for USP. It's not at all fair to the crew members who do the right thing. This isnt the 1980s anymore. The crew members are then asked to complete a written report that records all details of the flight. Absolutely no verification of credentials or inspection of personal items. Ive seen grandpa working like its his second career to stay busy. All other individuals (to include spouses, dependents, minor children, etc.) If you combine all the flight attendants and look at the numbers is it even close to 1% of crew members doing this? Anyway, Im curious to see what the new procedure looks like. So it's not that they don't understand the reputation-restricted nature of items; it's that they have the rep and still can't buy the items. All such a joke, Just ban flight attendants from the program, done. If a crewmember believes that a KCM denial occurred relative to employment status, they should proceed to the passenger-screening checkpoint for screening and, when time permits, ask an airline supervisor for assistance with the airline KCM record. So, like with just about everything else good, a few ruin it for the majority. I use KCM and live in a base. Backpacks (including clear backpacks), hard-sided coolers (regardless of size) and bags larger than 16 x 16 x 8 inches are NOT permitted at Wrigley Field.Other bags (such as wallets, purses, drawstring bags, fanny packs, lunch bags, briefcases and soft-sided coolers) smaller than 16 x 16 x 8 inches in size are permitted. "Y'all fucked around and found out". Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand theKCM Rules for Useand comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. Waiters, food services and others, including TSA workers who make minimum wage and have a thankless job, not so much. Have a little fun with this!!! And, while doom and gloom regarding the future might be reality, there is a good chance that it will be nowhere near as bad as some try to paint it. knives or knife-like (whether or not made of metal), including leather working knives. I hope KCM is not done away with, but kept with added safeguards to prevent abuse. Common sense solutions to common sense problems. Can we also ban the pilots who brought their guns, or the ones bringing their wives wine? Other countries check their own and I have never witnessed this in the US. Pilots should still be able to have KCM. There is no reason to trust flight attendants any more than any other trusted group, like police officers, travelers with security clearances, doctors or priests. Our customers' security is our priority. 53 30 There are 24,000 flight attendants just at my airline. I have. In short, TSA KNOWS that multiple airline crew will push back, making noise that will DEFINITELY generate the news they need to remain relevant when it comes to their jobs. Learn to comprehend what I'm saying. Encourage your airline to be more stringent in hiring, join the hiring team. TSOs are responsible for screening passengers and their carry- The attention is directed at the wrong people. Stay mad, enjoy going through the security checkpoint. If there is to be no special consideration for a FA then there should be none for pilots. My grammar is literally better than yours so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. I'm laughing my ass off at all of these angry flight attendants and pilots saying TSA shouldn't worry about drugs lol. You've been intentionally disrupting things for years. To my knowledge its not that many. If they can make their annual salary as a flight attendant with a couple of runs, then they might figure its worth the risk. You, Mr "peepee" sound as though you already have a preconceived notion about flight attendants and are lumping us all together. 0000003346 00000 n It has been a shit-show forever at many airports (I'll site a few problem locations: EWR is #1- their KCM NEVER WORKS, forcing Crew to the regular (oh I'm sorry) - But if they find drugs they have to alert authorities. For information about the Known Crewmember program, please contact us at:info@knowncrewmember.org. Authorized crewmembers traveling with a printed boarding pass or seat request card are subject to the TSA Secure Flight (SF) vetting system the same as passengers. And I mean to the VERY front, all the way to the front of the belt. Failure to submit to screening at the passenger screening checkpoint (e.g., using a SIDA badge to avoid screening) is considered circumvention of screening, and TSA may take enforcement action in accordance with the KCM Disqualification Protocols (KCMDP). Life rafts are located on Deck 7 . The TSA is just theater of the absurd (95% fail rate*) . I have pre check and clear. 0000045258 00000 n Flight crews already have to arrive hours before their flight and are not even getting paid. and when people are searched - which IS part of the security screening process - then there is a legitimate NECESSITY to escalate something that is illegally found to the appropriate law enforcement authorities. vI9F Xm0c(`8v{i?_)D]`5Qm5fd``6h~"p /% Ukraine Prohibited and Restricted Items FedEx Cross Border is unable to ship prohibited and non-approved restricted items on behalf of its customers. As for their excuse as to why theyre increasing random security checks, its kind of a dumb argument. The current system is broken beyond repair at the moment. I got secondary screening and they did it right there at the crew line (which they do in other countries) they just wipe your hands and suitcase and test it. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" What exactly are the numbers of people who are trying to sneak in illegal things through kcm? Date: March 18, 2022 The government-approved Known Crewmember (KCM) program allows Flight Attendants and Pilots at many airlines to enjoy the convenience of an expedited security screening. If youve not got anything productive to say, just focus on flying the plane. Yes, we expect, when we get to kcm that we will just be able to walk through and it is a disappointment when we cant. That volume won't come back to the regular checkpoints. Do exactly the opposite. And nothing to do with YOU! Any employee, even a pilot, could be enlisted to smuggle a weapon into the secure area to be passed to someone else. Am I not mistaken, but in many other parts of the world, do the pilots and FAs not just simply present to the front of the general security queues? When youre randomly checked five or six times in a row, its easy to cop a tude. You, Mr "peepee" sound as though you already have a preconceived notion about flight attendants and are lumping us all together. A pilot with bad intentions could more easily overpower his crewmate with a weapon. Some flight crew position names are derived from nautical terms and indicate a rank or command structure similar to that on ocean-going vessels, allowing for quick executive decision making during normal operations or emergency situations. 2.3 Known Crewmember has been a wonderful privilege. After X amount of time if (when) violations decrease, then just make KCM (or ECA) for pilots only. Flight attendants (mostly female) live out of their suitcases for several days at a time and wouldn't be feasible to check their bags just for health and beauty products (make-up, shampoo, etc), not counting the amount of food that FA's are allowed to pack in their travel cooler (again, several days of food are packed in those coolers) FA's are background checked and it's My concern for flight attendants would be the TSA liquid limits. endstream endobj 66 0 obj <>stream 0000005203 00000 n Ive been going through regular security when I arrive at the airport at my home base just to avoid the bother of being sent there anyway. Second, customers are always disappointed when a crew member steps to the front of a line. Youre a bunch of loser clowns. As a flight attendant KCM is a privilege most of us highly respect with air travel at an all time high to be sent thru regular screening will cause delays and many frustrations Crewmembers may use KCM access points in or out of uniform in accordance with the identification requirements above. For travel tips and a complete list of items prohibited from carry-on or checked baggage, visit www.TSATravelTips.us or call the Contact Center toll-free at 1-866-289-9673. Thats why youre smurfs. I have witnessed them walk through checkpoints in droves with little more than a flash of a badge. I fly for an international freight airline. On October 21, 1520 Magellan finally entered the strait that he had been seeking and that came to bear his name. Also, the US is rolling out more and more high tech scanners which are much faster. It is only there to prevent security threats to aviation, originally hijacking then terrorist attacks. Pilots have years and $100,000 plus dollars invested in this career. If pilots were running a little late for whatever reason, the flight attendants would still be required to be there to board passengers so as not to be faulted with a delay in the boarding process. since most smuggling takes place internationally, why doesnt immigration have people go through machines when entering the US? {uyn1j~_L;t26mHMSY%?kbS&eGo?3/_fbd^`Gv`!=XYX+\GGGGGGEES%%%%%%y;`-^Sc;_y^1}iF3 More egregious violations of the Code Federal Regulations (CFRs) could result in civil or criminal penalties. That's Have anyone seen how TSA Employees (as well as LEOs )gain access to the secured sterile areas of any of our nation's airports around the country? I have PreCheck and Ive waited at least 30 minutes several times between April and October this year. Maybe pilots should stop bringing their guns to work. Interesting comment, at my local airport, SEA, screening for airport employees is done by the Port of Seattle, on a lower level, NOT the TSA at the lanes that the traveling public uses. _W+ When you are selected for random, at Denver for instance, you are told to go to random screening. Fraud and intentional falsification of records; Tampering or interfering with, compromising, modifying, or attempting to circumvent any security system, measure or procedure; Entering, or presence within, a secured or sterile area without complying with the access control systems, measures, or procedures; Unauthorized use of any airport-issued or airport-approved access or identification medium; Entering the sterile area or boarding an aircraft without submitting to the screening and inspection procedures; Carrying a weapon, explosive, or incendiary to an airport or onboard an aircraft on an individuals person or accessible property; Carrying a weapon, explosive or incendiary in checked baggage without properly complying with TSA requirements; Carrying a weapon or explosive on an aircraft; Threats or providing false information; and. So, my take is its bull and going to cause more problems for everyone. At most: I would like to be seen as a whistle blower. I'm also a flight attendant and I don't know about that since it looks like you're happy with arriving an extra couple hours even before your report time at the gate. KCM does not exempt a crewmember from complying with these additional security measures. This is going to cause more time people wait in line and people already hate it when crew members arrive late to the aircraft. If I need to go through the line, the smurfs need to go through the line too. The last incident of the FA caught smuggling fentanyl in SF because they got the random at KCM and got caught at the security checkpoint was the final nail in the coffin for KCM. We did it Joe! AFA worked with the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to ensure that Flight Attendants would be included in this vital program, which allows participating crew members to access sterile areas of the airport through a separate crew portal. I get to see both sides of this equation. Effective March 31, 2022, the TSA will require KCM eligible crewmembers to scan a KCM-issued barcode card when utilizing a KCM access point. darts. If you have been issued a temporary government issued photo ID and it is your only form of government issued identification, proceed to the passenger screening checkpoint or employee screening location to access the airport sterile area. I think that the best solution is to permanently revoke the KCM privilege from the offenders. Q: Does using KCM preclude any chance that I may be selected for additional screening after I successfully transit an access point and proceed into the sterile area of an airport? Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. Crew Member responsibilities include assisting customers as needed, answering questions, and completing daily tasks. Thanks for what you do. I highly doubt it but they wont release the exact numbers they give vague statements so they can grab more power. According to Aero Crew News, in 2023 the Known Crewmember Program (KCM) will be replaced by a new program branded as Expedited Crew Access (ECA). 0000001462 00000 n 0000003052 00000 n Meanwhile I have to show my employer issued ID, plus scan a TSA issued barcode identifying me and a 2nd Government issued picture ID (a 3rd ID not in uniform). lost an engine, no hydraulics, a decompression, or worse) onboard your next flight and YOU need the assistance of a Flight Attendant to save your life or that of a loved one! * link https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/02/411423341/head-of-tsa-reassigned-after-tests-reveal-security-failures, you tsa guys are cluelessspend a day in ben gurion airport (TLV) and learn what it takes to prevent a 9-11. Weve seen an increasing number of people smuggling drugs and other prohibited items through these checkpoints. Contact Us. 0000004455 00000 n Its really an interesting take when you mention pilots dont need to be screened as much. The vast majority of crew use KCM exactly as they should and are law abiding. There's too many crewmembers to have them all go through pre-check. Known Crewmember What You Need To Know! ENR 5. Secondly, its rather disturbing that TSA agents have very little oversight in regards to entering secure areas with bags, purses, etc. Carriage of another individual's property through the KCM portal to circumvent screening is prohibited. When flights get delayed or passengers miss their flights because the TSA already cant keep up with their normal shit. Known Crewmember has been a wonderful privilege. Zr 6+D`CWqkvqdG;\x\pxuS]\`IR]C}0MH7nVi V^VOHD \/q,B"A ?#a),O 6o_?y \Q:@ av If you don't like going through security, then commercial aviation is not the right job for you. This could help to discourage any would-be smugglers. The following transportation security, regulatory and/or statutory violations result in a disqualification: NOTE: The majority of KCM access point disqualification cases involve attempted access for personal international travel, transporting the property of another individual through a KCM access point, and carrying prohibited items. crampons. Prohibited Items Week 2021. Allowing anyone to bypass security is illogical and needs to stop. It is time that "whoever takes over screening" looks at us (all) as individuals. See more about our ethics policies here. Fine tuning of the program are very much in need but not just to our end, theirs (Government Screeners) too. The "Flight Attendants" column denotes airlines whose Flight Attendants are eligible to participate in the KCM program. Crew members know the rules - the bad apples just are overly confident they wont be held accountable. Is air travel going to get even MORE expensive? It takes all of us to to fly passengers. Like other airline workers dont use a SIDA badge and go through another entrance. In any event, I really enjoy reading your articles. While we do try to list all the best miles and points deals, the site does not include all card companies or credit card offers available in the marketplace. You probably didn't pay too much attention to this class in training because you had 30 minutes sleep the night before because of the party/orgy but somehow managed to barely pass the multiple choice "test" anyway. Hmm, your story sounds fishy. Some times 10 or 15 TSA screeners at the same time. All airline employees are subject to TSA screening practices conducted within sterile areas, which include roving screening teams, random gate screening and questioning by TSA officers. NO. That's right. The comments on this page have not been provided, reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any advertiser, and it is not an advertiser's responsibility to ensure posts and/or questions are answered. I was next and was told I need further screening tho I did not ring told FA cannot be further screened so I have to be screened??? b. You seem to be missing the point and just jumping on the offense instead. It is incorporated for crewmembers protection and to ensure the integrity of the system. Its harassment as far as Im concerned its very frustrating to go through this every time you come to work. Well, at least for larger airports. 0000009729 00000 n 0000057216 00000 n Push through to the front each and every time you clear TSA. KCM Crewmember definition & requirements: For the purpose of the KCM Program, authorized crewmembers have been defined by the TSA as: Captains or Pilots in Command, First Officers or Co-Pilots, Flight Engineers, Flight Navigators, Flight Attendants and Load Masters for full all-cargo operations. Other Airline Flight Attendants have told me that some of their colleagues have been terminated for violating KCM policies. ALPA and the A4A met in late March 2011 with TSA Administrator John S. Pistole and received TSA approval to install and test Known Crewmember at as many as seven U.S. hub airports. Cops, firefighters and paramedics are first responders. Pilots have repeatedly been caught bringing guns. Then there are the handful who do things they shouldn't do, that are making it a lot harder for everyone else. The folks that said lets punish those that break the rules are the only ones that have common sense. On the other, my spouse is a F/A for Southwest. Only authorized crewmembers approved by the KCM system may enter the airport sterile area through a KCM access point. For everyones information, so long as the plane is on there is no need to have pilots on board while boarding passengers. 2. If you have been inactive, on leave, or if you have been temporarily removed from service, you will not have KCM access. If you did, you wouldn't have made such an inept comment. The program is not ending. I show up clean shaven, fresh haircut, pressed uniform and a smile. A lot of money from pilot dues was spent by the Air Line Pilots Association to help get the Known Crew Member program going. Really Will? I think the KCM program is complete bullshit. Again, the TSA doesn't handle drug cases but if they do even random checks and find something that is illegal, they are going to refer it to local or federal police. hungama 2 box office collection The Known Crewmember (KCM) program is a joint initiative between Airlines for America (A4A) and the Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l (ALPA).KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of While you have no idea what its like going through security as many times as we do with our heavy bag, etc, as many times as we do, it is actually quite frustrating to walk up to kcm and be randomed 2/3 of the time. That's because you unhinged exmilitary guys are a threat. The second most common hard skill for a mcdonalds crew member is food orders appearing on 29.2% of resumes. Its simply aggravation when you have to wait on a slow ass employee bus then drag your bag to security and here an offer say You wanna try your luck with a dumb ass grin on their face. It is unfortunate that in 2023, the program may no longer exist for some. I would love to see the upcoming changes on the program since I'm currently a flight attendant. @ Alan -- I mean, I think the people who are actually caught with serious things (like kilos of cocaine) are facing worse punishment than just being banned from KCM Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. I think this KCM change may be a solution in search of a problem. Who is to say they can't hand off drugs or weapons. KCM is a risk-based security program. You have a nice day. Are they really catching crew members with drugs? MNM8[@w1\J2t_ig VIgM]0%b"fM Scissors with blade length less than 4 inches . Legally, TSA searches are on thin ice with respect to the 4th Amendment. There are a number of products which have entry or exit limitations in Spain from outside the European Union, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein. For those who abuse the line, like while going to leisure international travel, which is not permitted, an immediate 6 months suspension without pay. Such conduct can jeopardize crewmembers of their right to participate in the program and consequently jeopardizes the entire Known Crew Member (KCM) program. I highly doubt it but they wont release the exact numbers they give vague statements so they can grab more power. I would propose that any crew member intentionally engaging in this activity, once caught and verified, be terminated immediately and banned from any job in transport, prosecuted and given an exhorbitant fine, say $100,000. The protection from unwarranted searching isn't about protecting people carrying contraband. I'm a flight attendant with 34 years seniority. Crewmembers may request a new or replacement KCM barcode card from their airline management. I'll be signed in and ready for work whenever. Who cares if a pilot brings a gun onto a plane. Flight attendants should have a probationary period and then allowed in as well. (Note: Personal grooming items such as safety razors are allowed. So, according to you, FAs need to go through security because of prohibited items and drugs. What? 0000003099 00000 n (a handful of others choose to use this out-dated screening method from time to time because they STILL consider it to be an accepted method of secondary screening!!!) Highly incorrect. For context, with the Known Crewmember Program, eligible pilots and flight attendants dont have to clear security when passing through airports. There have been off duty flight attendant crew members busted on drugs recently, but by the Customs and Border Patrol, not the TSA. Funny how you said that it's the flight attendants when I can tell because I actually work as a flight attendant that just last month a PILOT went through KCM with a loaded weapon that he should have declared. Stay connected with the latest travel, aviation, and credit card news. As a paying subscriber of CLEAR & TSAPre, I would welcome a dedicated crew/employee line for those employees that are working. Blame is on BOTH sides of the door. How insulting! Just give us a dedicated crew only lane. Crewmembers must be fully certified by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)as applicable; currently employed by the aircraft operator holding an approved TSA security program; have successfully completed the Criminal History Records Check (CHRC) process; be authorized to perform crewmember duties on full all-cargo flights, scheduled passenger or public/private charter passenger flights operated under an approved security program; and have completed the aircraft operators crewmember security training as applicable. Once a gangster town. always a gangster town - starting at the top down (with the exclusion of The Obamas - they were the major good that ever came out of Chicago). <]>> Its fine. You're about as much of a "first responder" as the senior citizen who greets people at Walmart. That should have never been allowed any more than ground workers could access special security lines when traveling. About AFA | You have successfully joined our subscriber list. It's the flight attendants. Please remember you said this when YOU have a medical emergency or a general emergency (ie. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight.
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