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No Jail Time for Former Corrections Officer and Friend Who Together Breached the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. It all gave jurors a lot to think about but only for six hours. In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. The couple moved into Andrews sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. Patricia Cole, a veteran copy editor whose sharp eye, quick wit and kind heart made her a cherished colleague at NPR and other news outlets, died on Friday at age 46, Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. Dame Patricia said she was "deeply saddened" to hear of her former co-star's death. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. No charmed life. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. Yaser Said's ex-wife Patricia Owens gives victim statement after guilty verdict Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. Patricia Prue to undergo 2nd competency exam, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. She was wrongfully convicted.. Omg so well put! Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! Both were deceased. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). Locked up. If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. And I have absolutely no sympathy. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. The couple was not allowed to have contact during court proceedings. Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a Fugitive dad arrested for slaying teen daughters in honor killing Emailus. "There is nothing I or anyone can say to make what you've been put through any easier," Patricia Prue said. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Jury convicts man who harbored fugitive brother accused of killing I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. I decided to just plead guilty to get it over with.. Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. Mr Steve J 2023 www.burlingtonfreepress.com. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, in a letter to Patricia. Said Wow. Theres speculation and theres lies period. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. The Charley Project offers details of the womans life before she went missing: She walked throughout the city, approaching strangers and telling them shed had a vision of the Virgin Mary and the world was about to end. The LAPD alleged that Patricias motive was to get Jeromes insurance money, which had a value of $30,000. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with There was also forensic evidence, obviously planted by them crooked cops, according to defenders. You took my family all in one night," she said. Then international law enforcement was contacted. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. I decided to take the toys and hide them so my mother wouldnt see them, said Alfey, who is now 29 years old. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. The real killer is Rorrer! Combination locks. Ive found that in nearly every case, those who are firmly of the opinion shes guilty have an extremely limited knowledge of the case theyve watched one (or perhaps more) of the documentaries which make absolutely no attempt to show anything thats in Rorrers favour (theres plenty, if one bothers to look), and worse, revel in exaggerated and speculative scenes, some of which were never even mentioned at her trial. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. Flawed justice: the wrongful conviction of Kerry Baxter Sr. Patricia Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. "I want to apologize personally for the fact that my husband wasn't a strong enough human being to admit his wrongs and be able to take his rightful punishment willingly," she said. Charles Robert, the 3-month-old son she had with Gary Gabard, died of sudden infant death syndrome; Patricia found him blue in his crib. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. "I hope somebody gets their hands on you and hurt you and do everything you ever did to anybody. Patricia Owens called her ex-husband Yaser Said the devil for allegedly murdering their two daughters at his trial in Dallas on Aug. 4, 2022. And Patricia wasnt all edges. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. According to a Morning Call account from March 5, 1998: McIntyre leaned forward conspiratorially like someone trying to persuade another to tell a secret, lowered his voice and said: Heres what I want to know: After you killed Joann Katrinak, did you kill that baby or just leave it to die?. Follow her on Twitter at www.twitter.com/LizMurraySMC. Saphira Wolf forgive me, but I dont have the time, or wish, to respond to idiotic comments. If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) According to Kohlhepp, the RTPD obtained Patricia Koptas DNA sample, then obtained one from her sister and a nephew. Especially mice! Patrica Owens, Yaser Said's ex-wife, testified before the jury Thursday morning and said why she fled her home with her daughters only to return days before they were Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. 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It was a very big shock to see to know that she was still alive. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. she didnt need to . False. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. And she called 911. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. Patricia made daily phone calls every day but made no calls at all the day before, of and after Joannes murder as she was traveling and knew her phone could track her location. You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led them to investigate. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Engagement/Breaking News reporter. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. Hoist by my own petard! If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? I would have liked better her being put to death! Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. Its totally irrelevant. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). You murdered your girls," she said. From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. All rights reserved. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! DALLAS, Texas - A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. Patricia said she didn't have plans to attend Weinstein's trial since she was spending time with her 16-year-old daughter, Harlow, but praised Rosanna's "bravery." At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. Have you read the book? How so? That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. Patricia Prue sentence: Life without parole Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. In 1995, Larry Wright was facing a 10-year sentence for two felonies, risk of an injury to a minor and violating a restraining order, and a misdemeanor for threatening by saying, Im going to kill you, to his wife after he caught her cheating. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! Black said she was glad Said took the witness stand, giving her the chance to poke holes in his story, exposing him to everyone who has been watching this case. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? A Texas father one of the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives wanted for the slayings of his two teen daughters was busted after more than 12 years on the run, the federal law enforcement agency announced. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. in emerging media and communication from the University of Texas at Dallas and an M.S. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. Because of these two prior offences, Patricia was sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole under Californias Three Strikes Law. Senate Bill 1399, the compassionate release bill signed into law a year ago, allows prisoners who are permanently and medically incapacitated to be released from prison and into the care of family and caretakers. As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. "I couldn't believe it," Blasczyk said of the crime. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. If I rolled my eyes any harder they might fall out. And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. Patricia and Mark McCloskey, the St. Louis homeowners who pointed guns at protesters, pleaded not guilty Wednesday to weapons and evidence tampering charges. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? They were there in the winter months in which the bodies would have been frozen most of the time. The Dallas County jury returned a guilty verdict on Tuesday following about three hours of deliberations at the end of the six-day trial. 3 Chicago officers acquitted of covering up for colleague who shot Tragedy also touched Patricias life. And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. The men harbored Yaser Said inside an apartment in Bedford, according to court documents, and he was nearly captured after a maintenance worker spotted him in August 2017. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. A knife and the clothing worn by the victim potentially had all of the answers that would have led to the real murderer, but that evidence was destroyed by the LAPD.
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